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[18.03.2005] Bei AICN gibt es gemischte Kritiken...

[17.03.2005] Bei Movie-Vault.com gibt es zwei exklusive "Ring 2"-Trailer...

[16.03.2005] Bei Moviehole gibt es ein Interview mit Naomi Watts...
[...] While Watts did not need to appear in this week’s Ring Two, the actress concedes she was contractually obliged to star in the spooky thriller. "Back then, I really didn't have the power of choice," Watts concedes, yet having said that, she had no qualms revisiting the world of The Ring, this time directed by Hideo Nakata, who helmed the original. "The first one was a good script, the film did very, very well and it went beyond a genre piece, with an extreme character in it which is quite rare in a genre, where there is usually just running and screaming," the actress explains. "The Ring 2" picks up six months after the horrifying events that terrorized Rachel Keller (Watts) and her son Aidan (David Dorfman) in Seattle. To escape her haunting memories, Rachel takes Aidan and moves to the small coastal community of Astoria, Oregon, to start fresh. However, Rachel's resolve quickly turns to dread when evidence at a local crime scene - including an unmarked videotape - seems eerily familiar. Rachel realizes that the vengeful Samara is back and more determined than ever to continue her relentless cycle of terror and death. Watts says that her "character had a lot more substance and it was about confronting the situation, the psychological aspects to it, and moral dilemmas, which I think have come up again in the sequel. They took a long time with the script, DreamWorks are very clever people, they know how to make it right and they persisted. We have a great director, who directed the original one, and we have a great cast. I think there is always that fear of doing any sequel but we took our time in trying to make it the best we could, while also give a nod to the audience." [...]

[20.02.2005] DreamWorks SKG Fansite liefert ein Making-Of zum US-Sequel...

[18.02.2005] Bei CS! gibt es neue Bilder zum US-Sequel...

[06.02.2005] Bei AICN gibt es eine Kritik zum US-Sequel (7.2/10)... SPOILER !!!

[27.01.2005] Bei AICN gibt es ein Interview mit Hideo Nakata...

[26.01.2005] Bei Moviehole gibt es eine Kritik zu "Ring 2"...
[...] The movie starts off pretty average but it gets much better once the spookiness get going in full swing and it does build on the foundation that the original set forth on the life of this tragic yet very evil child.
It could have been a run in the mill sequel with no originality but it handles itself well in the story department and delivers a few genuine shocks and surprises during the course of the film. One of them is the character of Sissy Spacek, who has a small but pivotal role and her performance is actually pretty creepy in itself.
There is a nice twist that that links both Ring films together because of her character but I will not spoil it for you. The movie as whole is really pretty good but not as good as first film in terms of its sheer creep factor. [...]


[24.01.2005] Bei TheRingworld.com gibt es ein lesenswertes Interview mit Hideo Nakata... Und unter the-tape.com gibt es ein schreckenerregendes Video, welches man sich besser nicht anschaut...

[14.01.2005] Bei AICN gibt es eine Kritik zu einer Rohfassung von "Ring 2"...
[...] This was a rough working cut of the film that we got to see, and they prefaced that many of the effects were not done yet, and that there were other issues such as sound, much etc, that had not quiet gotten to the polishing stage yet [...]
I got the impression that the director might have wanted to use more of the disturbing imagery in this one and just got clamed down on by the machine of Hollywood. However, there were some aspects that harkened back to the original that really got the hair on my arm sticking up.
Over all I would give it a B+ / A- [...]


[08.01.2005] Bei Apple.com gibt es den neuen "Ring Two" Trailer !!!

[28.12.2004] Die Offizielle "Ring Two" Website bietet endlich mehr...

[12.12.2004] Bei IGNFF gibt es ein neues Poster zu "Ring 2"...

[14.10.2004] Die Offizielle Website bietet den "Ring 2" US-Teaser-Trailer !!!

[31.08.2004] DH meldet...
'Joe S' reports that "Last Wednesday, the bulk of the crew got wrapped. A few shots were done Friday and one or two more minor FX type shots are on the schedule for this Tuesday".

[24.08.2004] DH meldet...
Interesting rumours are swirling behind the production of the sequel to "The Ring". The film has finally wrapped principal photography - around a week behind schedule and with Naomi Watts giving the producers an "I've got to be out of here by this time" style deadline. Shooting continued after Watts' deadline (and she did leave on that date).
That's not the end of it. Seems they are still shooting right now - pick-ups and FX work should continue for several more days. Reports from the set hold that reasons for the film going over schedule include director Hideo Nakata (who did the Japanese original) being asked to constantly change the script on the set, as well as his own language difficulties and alleged "problems with his own lack of decisiveness".


[12.07.2004] Fangoria meldet...
[...] Fango has heard through the grapevine that Touchstone’s English-language DARK WATER remake, directed by Walter Salles and starring Jennifer Connelly, has shifted out of its October 15 berth and is now set to open in early 2005. Same goes for DreamWorks’ THE RING 2, directed by Nakata, which, as we predicted (item), has vacated its November 10 slot in favor of a debut next year. [...]

[21.06.2004] Bei DH gibt es einen "Ring 2" Set-Bericht... SPOILER !!!

[09.06.2004] HeraldNet meldet...
Susan Connor's Monroe horse ranch again plays host to Hollywood crews working on the second installment of the hit 2002 thriller.
[...] Early last week a crew of 60 began preparations and filmed all day Friday, closing Yeager Road north of U.S. 2 at intervals throughout the day.
Crew members asked her to let the grass grow for at least four weeks leading up to filming. They also took down some sections of fence and removed her mailbox and replaced it with another. [..]
The only actor on site this time was Gary Cole. He is primarily known for playing Bill Lumbergh in the cult classic "Office Space" and for reprising the role of Mike Brady in the 1990s Brady Bunch movies. He also had a recurring role as Rep. "Bingo" Bob Russell on "The West Wing."
Cole plays a real estate agent in "The Ring 2," charged with selling the haunted horse farm. [..]


[08.06.2004] Bei DH gibt es ein paar Bilder vom "Ring 2"-Set...

[04.06.2004] Die Offizielle Website zu "Ring 2" (US) ist online...

[02.06.2004] HollywoodReporter.com meldet...
Elizabeth Perkins [...] joins Naomi Watts, Simon Baker and Sissy Spacek. Hideo Nakata is directing, with Perkins playing a psychologist. [...]

[27.05.2004] Bei Bloody-Disgusting gibt es wieder ein paar detaillierte Infos zur "Ring 2"-Story... SPOILER !!!

[21.05.2004] Bei RopeOfSilicon gibt es eine Anzeige zum Drehstart von "Ring 2"...

[07.05.2004] Statesman Journal berichtet über das "Ring 2" Komparsen-Casting...
[...] All ages and types are needed for filming, which will take place in June in Astoria. [...]
"The Ring 2" is not based on any of the Japanese films and has an original storyline, although it echos the original U.S. film.
In the sequel, Keller and her son, Aidan (Dorfman), have relocated to the Oregon town of Asheville, where the discovery of a local teenager’s homicide prompts Keller to investigate.
The investigation leads to the mysterious videotape and a return to Seattle, where she investigates the background of the tape.
Baker plays David Rourke, a coworker at Rachel’s newspaper; Van Camp plays Emily, a teenage girl whose boyfriend died after seeing one of the videotapes. Spacek plays Dr. Emma Temple, who is treating Aidan.
"The Ring 2" will be released late this year or next year.


[21.04.2004] CS! meldet...
Everwood star Emily VanCamp is in final talks to play the young female lead in DreamWorks' horror sequel The Ring 2, reports Variety. [...]

[19.04.2004] HollywoodReporter.com meldet...
Sissy Spacek is returning to the horror genre -- where she enjoyed one of her earliest successes as the telekinetic heroine of 1976's "Carrie" -- as she steps into "The Ring 2" for DreamWorks and director Hideo Nakata. The Oscar-winning actress joins Naomi Watts and Simon Baker in the film, due to start shooting in mid-May. It's unclear exactly who she will play in the ongoing tale of a mysterious videotape that proves fatal to viewers because the script is being closely guarded; sources close to the film said the filmmakers want to keep a level of mystery around Spacek's character. [...]

[17.04.2004] Bloody-Disgusting meldet...
The Ring 2 is heading into production soon with a new director, and a newly revised script, what does this mean for little Daveigh Chase who played Samara Morgan in the 2002 smash hit The Ring? Naomi Watts, David Dorfman and Simon Baker are all confirmed for the sequel, which is now set for a November 2004 release. Read on and find out what the deal with Chase is..
I'd be sad too, but hey, there's always a prequel...
Our scooper JPM, who sent in some of the script for the sequel, which has been confirmed as real, let us know the status of Daveigh Chase, and why she's not expected to return:
"There's a simple reason why Miss Chase is NOT returning to play the role of Samara: screen time.
The character of Samara only appears three times in the entire screenplay (now that all the flashback scenes have been cut). We do not get to see her face at all; just her mop of hair obscuring it. She has no lines whatsoever as well. This is why Miss Chase chose not to return; more than likely the production team can use any other girl of similar height and build to stand in for those three scenes.
Incidentally, this is the reason the previous director Noam Murro left the project; he wanted to include all the flashback scenes, he was in love with making a horror movie 'Godfather 2' style."


[14.04.2004] Bei IGN FilmForce gibt es ein positives "Ring 2" Script-Review... Und HollywoodReporter.com meldet...
Simon Baker has circled his way into "The Ring 2" for DreamWorks and helmer Hideo Nakata. Shooting starts in mid-May on the sequel, with Baker set to play the male lead opposite Naomi Watts in the ongoing tale of a mysterious videotape that proves fatal to viewers. Although it will be the first time Baker and Watts have worked together, the two have been friends for years -- both call Australia home and share the same manager, Untitled Entertainment's Jason Weinberg. Baker's wife, Rebecca Rigg, also is best friends with Watts.

[11.03.2004] CS! meldet...
Japanese director Hideo Nakata, the man behind the original Ringu upon which the 2002 horror film The Ring was based, is in negotiations to helm The Ring 2 for DreamWorks.
Nakata will replace director Noam Murro, who dropped from the project earlier this week. The film will mark Nakata's American directorial debut now that he is no longer directing True Believers at MGM.
In addition to Ringu, Nakata also directed that film's sequel, released in Japan in 1999, a year after the first movie.
Although the first American "Ring" was a remake of the Japanese film, the "Ring 2" script, written by Ehren Kruger, will depart from Ringu 2. Naomi Watts will reprise her role in the sequel.


[10.03.2004] CS! meldet...
Noam Murro, the commercials director who was to helm DreamWorks' The Ring 2, will not be working on the sequel after all.
DreamWorks Pictures head Walter Parkes said, "This is a mutual parting based on two creative differences. Noam Murro is an extraordinarily gifted director and we intend without hesitation to try to work with him in the future."
According to the studio, the release date for the follow-up remains November 10. A new director is expected to be named as soon as this week. Naomi Watts and David Dorfman are returning for the sequel, written by Ehren Kruger, who also penned the original.


[09.02.2004] Bei Bloody-Disgusting gibt es die Kritik zu ein paar Seiten des "Ring 2"-Scripts... SPOILER !!!

[24.01.2004] DH meldet...
'Underwear' has word on "The Ring" remake franchise and where it might eventually end up:
"Ehren Krueger, is obviously writing the sequel. The script is part prequel/part sequel with the first thirty five pages being a fleshed out backstory. Right now this is being jettisoned as Dreamworks wants to make that section of the script into a completely independent prequel film (which Ehren will at least write the treatment for, if not the whole film) and thus is busy trying to come up with a beginning for the movie and still be able to make its march start date. While he works on that, Dreamworks is looking for a hire end closer to do a couple steps on the second and third acts".


[17.01.2004] SF Wire meldet...
Daveigh Chase, the young actress who played the evil Samara Morgan in The Ring, told SCI FI Wire that she reprises her ghostly character in the sequel. "I will [go back to work] soon," Chase said in an interview. "They're going to start filming in March. Unfortunately, I can't say anything about it, [but] it will definitely be horrifying."
Chase added that the producers have not even shown her the script yet. "They're waiting until the last minute [to show me]," she said. "I'm pretty sure I'll get to kill everybody again. That'll be fun." DreamWorks plans to release The Ring 2 on Nov. 10.


[19.12.2003] Bei CS! gibt es das "Ring 2" Teaser-Poster !!!

[05.11.2003] HollywoodReporter.com weiss, wer im Regiestuhl für das US-Sequel platznehmen wird...
Commercial helmer Noam Murro is rounding his way to the big screen, signing on to direct "The Ring 2" for DreamWorks. Murro steps into the director's chair for the sequel, taking the reins from Gore Verbinski, who helmed the first "Ring."
The first installment -- an Americanized version of the Japanese hit "Ringu" -- debuted in October 2002 and went on to gross north of $128 million at the domestic boxoffice. It not only proved to be the highest-grossing film of the year for the studio, but it also helped to propel the career of "Mulholland Drive" star Naomi Watts, who has been working almost constantly since the bow of "The Ring."
The second installment, penned by Ehren Kruger, is being produced by studio co-heads Walter Parkes and Laurie MacDonald. At the studio, "Ring 2" is being overseen by DreamWorks production executive Mark Sourian. Roy Lee and Mike Macari are executive producing, with Neal Edelstein, J.C. Spink and Chris Bender serving as co-executive producers.
Murro is repped by WMA, Management 360 and attorney Carlos Goodman. He received a nomination from the DGA earlier this year for outstanding directing in commercials. He has helmed spots for Nike, Saturn and Volkswagen.


[12.09.2003] DH meldet, dass Daveigh Chase - alias Samara Morgan - im US-Sequel wieder mitspielen wird !!! Kleine Bemerkung am Rande: In "Lilo & Stitch" lieh sie Lilo ihre Stimme...

[04.09.2003] e-m-s veröffentlicht "Ring 2" auf DVD !!! Am 6. November 2003 veröffentlicht e-m-s dann auch das Prequel "Ring 0" auf DVD - mit deutscher Synchro natürlich !!!

[31.07.2003] Bei SF Wire gibt es ebenfalls Infos zum US-Sequel "Ring 2"...
Naomi Watts told SCI FI Wire that she has agreed to star in the proposed sequel to last year's hit supernatural horror film The Ring. Watts added that she expects to start shooting next year.
"I really liked that role, and it seemed to do well, so absolutely," Watts said in an interview. Watts played a journalist who discovers a videotape that kills people seven days after viewing it.
In December, Ring producer Walter Parkes told SCI FI Wire that the follow-up film would be both a prequel and a sequel, telling parallel stories. Though the original Ring is based on the first film in a series of Japanese horror movies, the U.S. sequel will be an original story.


[07.03.2003] Bei ringworld gibt es Infos zum US-Sequel "Ring 2"...
Received the following e-mail from a person who wished to remain anonymous: A contact in DreamWorks has confirmed that meetings have taken place about Ring 2. It looks like Naomi Watts has been in talks to star again, and she is about to sign. She will pull in an estimated 15 million (unconfirmed publicly) for her reprisal of her role, and the child actor will return as her son. No concrete story has been proposed, but Director Gore Verbinski may not return. The writing team will reunite. Spielberg, Wes Craven or Sam Mendes may take over the project.
The sequel will NOT have anything to do with the Japanese sequels.
A rough script will be in by December of this year. Hopefully, an October 2004 release date will be met. They will shoot for a 2 year anniversary.


[06.03.2003] CS! meldet...
[...] DreamWorks Home Entertainment says that The Ring sold more than 2 million DVDs on Tuesday, its first day on shelves.
"To see this type of film - which was really a cult phenomenon - sell more than 2 million DVD units to consumers during its first 24 hours in release clearly speaks to the success of both the film and the DVD format across all genres," DreamWorks Home Entertainment's Kelley Avery said. [...]


[13.02.2003] Heute startet "Ring" in den deutschen Kinos... Bei Ciao.com gibt es jede Menge Kritiken zu lesen...

[11.02.2003] Bei UIP gibt es die Ausschnitte Lass mein Kind in Ruhe! und Ist sie dort unten?, Interviews mit Naomie Watts und Martin Henderson (Benötigt Apple Quicktime) und die Competition "Was verbirgt sich hinter dem Ring?"

[10.02.2003] Heute finden vielerorts "The Ring"-Previews statt !!!

[06.02.2003] Auch wenn der Leinwand-Albtraum erst ab 13. Februar bei uns alle Zuschauer fesselt, musst Du jetzt nicht länger warten: Einer der "The Ring"-Previews findet bestimmt in Deiner Nähe statt. Aber hüte dich davor, allein ins Kino zu gehen !!!

[31.01.2003] Schau Dir das Videotape bloss nicht an !!!

[27.01.2003] Ivo Scheloske von Anolis Entertainment schrieb uns...
[...] ich habe auf Ihrer Seite zu THE RING gesehen, dass Sie auf das Original von Hideo Nakata hinweisen.
Dieser Film wird von uns (Anolis Entertainment) am 04.02.03 auf DVD (im Verleih) veröffentlicht. Eine offizielle Seite zum Film gibt es mittlerweile unter www.ring-dasoriginal.de. Die Seite wird ständig mit Infos zum Film, zu seinen Fortsetzungen (die wir ebenfalls noch dieses Jahr veröffentlichen werden) sowie zu den Büchern und Mangas und den Fakten, auf denen der Film basiert, aktualisiert wird. [...]


[18.12.2002] CineCon sprach mit Produzent Walter Parkes über "The Ring 2"... Vorsicht SPOILER !!!

[11.12.2002] CS! meldet...
DreamWorks Pictures is negotiating with helmer Gore Verbinski and scribe Ehren Kruger to return for a sequel to The Ring, reports Variety. The first film has already grossed $123.3 million at the North American box office.
Verbinski most recently wrapped Pirates of the Caribbean for Disney. He is also developing the film Spaceless at Fox, with former Fox Animation topper Chris Meledandri.
Kruger most recently co-penned the adaptation to Impostor based on the Phillip K. Dick story, and the third installment of the Scream trilogy.
The trade says that there's no word yet on a storyline for the second film and talks with Verbinski and Kruger are in the early stages.


[23.11.2002] MTV.com sprach mit dem Produzenten Walter Parkes über das US-Sequel... Vorsicht SPOILER !!!
[...] "It's gonna be tough because the original sell of the movie was the idea of this haunted video tape... Really the movie is much more involved in Rachel following the clues and discovering this girl named Samara, and what's her story? So it's really more the revelation of the mystery of how the tape came to be. Since we've now told that story, we're going to have to go back and create another mystery for the sequel. I don't think the sequel can merely be the story of the videotape going out in the world again, because that will only take you so far..." [...]
"Samara is the thing that lives on," Parkes said. "It might be interesting to explore how she was created in the first place, because we don't know that. We just know that she was adopted. We don't know how she came into this world. One of the things we've talked about is doing a dual point perspective - cutting between how Samara came into this world and what's happening in the present day. The only thing we know [for sure] is that we're going to try to come up with a really good idea."


[20.11.2002] EW.com weiss mehr über ein mögliches US-Sequel (oder Prequel)...
[...] Naomi Watts is contractually obligated to star. (While there is a prequel and a sequel to the original Japanese thriller on which ''The Ring'' is based, neither is a template the filmmakers necessarily want to use.) Parkes is hoping to reunite director Gore Verbinski, who is currently working on ''Pirates of the Caribbean,'' with ''Ring'' screenwriter Ehren Kruger, and to have the film out in two years. While he's undecided on the story line, executive producer Roy Lee suggests that ''we develop a script for a sequel and a prequel, and go with whichever comes together first.'' [...]

[10.11.2002] Die deutsche Offizielle Website ist zwischenzeitlich gestartet...

[23.10.2002] Bei CineCon gibt es ein Interview mit Naomi Watts...

[18.10.2002] Bei SF Wire gibt es ein Interview mit Gore Verbinski, der über die Änderungen zum Original erzählt... Ebenfalls bei SF Wire: Naomi Watts erzählt über die Szene mit dem Pferd...

[16.10.2002] Bei CHUD gibt es ein Interview mit dem Autor Ehren Kruger... Und bei IGN FilmForce gibt es ein Interview mit Naomi Watts...

[12.10.2002] Bei CS! gibt es das Poster und mehrere "Hinter den Kulissen"-Clips & Interviews (Benötigt Windows Media oder Real Player)...

[10.10.2002] Bei AICN gibt es eine positive Kritik von einem weiteren Fan des japanischen Originals...
[...] RING is certainly the best made serious horror film America has produced since...well, since ever. [...]

[08.10.2002] Bei CineMovies.fr gibt es mehrere Ausschnitte (Benötigt Apple Quicktime)... Cinescape sprach mit den Produzenten über ein mögliches Sequel...

[05.10.2002] Bei AICN gibt es eine positive Kritik von einem Fan des japanischen Originals... Und bei DH gibt es ein Interview mit Naomi Watts...

[30.09.2002] Bei Empire Movies gibt es mehrere Szenenbilder...

[27.09.2002] Es gibt einen neuen "The Ring" Trailer !!!

[20.09.2002] Bei AICN gibt es eine positive Kritik von Capone...
[...] THE RING was never meant to be a scream-a-minute horror film. It's a gradual and purposeful gothic tale about parents trying to save their child from certain death by supernatural forces. It's not the best scare film I've ever seen; it's not even in the Top 10. I thought THE OTHERS was better, but only by a little. THE RING is solid filmmaking and certainly ranks this year as the movie that is guaranteed to make your skin ripple more than once.

[25.08.2002] Bei CS! gibt es eine positive Kritik (8/10)...

[21.08.2002] Bei Latino Review gibt es das Filmposter und bei UIP.nl gibt es ein paar Szenenbilder...

[20.08.2002] Moriarty von AICN hat seine Kritik zum Film veröffentlicht...

[18.08.2002] Bei AICN und Coming Attractions gibt es mehrere, recht unterschiedliche Kritiken zum Test-Screening in Pasadena...

[15.08.2002] Bei Cine Con gibt es ein paar Szenenbilder...

[06.08.2002] Bei LOE gibt es das "The Ring" Promo-Video...

[03.08.2002] AICN hat den "The Ring" US-Trailer aufgespürt...

[31.07.2002] Moriarty von AICN revidiert seine letzte Meldung... "THE RING is called THE RING. That’s not changing." *g*

[27.07.2002] Bei AICN gibt es eine eher negative Kritik, plus folgende Info: "Ring" soll angeblich in "Seven Days" umbenannt worden sein... *g*

[26.07.2002] KFC Cinema sprach mit dem Produzenten Roy Lee...

[25.07.2002] Bei AICN gibt es eine recht positive Kritik...
[...] I went in with some very good word of mouth, and for the most part I was not disappointed. What they have here in this version is a thoughtful, somewhat deeper-than-usual horror story with some very good acting and some pretty disturbing chills. The film has an appropriate grey look (set in Seattle) which fits things just right for this film. [...]

[19.07.2002] Placebo meldet...
So it seems that the other night, our own Syd was exiting a certain concert in LA. As he was walking through the parking lot our wayward hero stumbles across a little tape laying around. Sounds fishy so far right? Read on. So he brings it home and tosses it into the VCR and hits play, and what does he see? A version of the tape from the movie 'The Ring', of course this one has American actors as opposed to Japanese, and the tape is a little different from the one we saw when we had our viewing of the original. So like a good cursed soul, the first thing he does is come over and show me, laying the old death curse on me and freeing himself from any painful endings.
Now we viewed the tape all the way through, because, well we were curious, and what did we find at the end? A website. From the looks of things, the studio making the remake has stumbled upon a great idea for promotions. Create and distribute versions of the cursed tape to generate hype.for the movie. Anyways, the site is a little strange, but hey, its horror. And you too can view the cursed tape if you click on the big 'Dont Watch This' link. Of course dont blink or you will miss the subliminal release date for the movie.
The site is: www.anopenletter.com
Oh and, here's to hoping I dont bite it in seven days.


[12.07.2002] Bei CA gibt es ein überaus positives Script-Review...
Early in the script RING someone asks, "When’s the last time you saw a scary movie that really scared you?" Well, I can safely say that the scary movie that will really scare you is RING. A creepy, spine-tingling psychological horror script that works its long, bony fingers under your flesh and insinuates itself until you’re weeping. [...] Let’s put it this way: RING is the first horror-movie script I ever read that had me jumpy and creeped out. This thing is atmospheric and stygian on the page. Most movies have me rolling my eyes and laughing, but this thing -- just the words on paper -- had me whirling around, feeling eyes on my back; my skin was prickling with nervousness. There’s something about this story -- something inherently spooky -- that sends a chill through you. [...]
RING is fingertips waltzing up your spine. It is a split-second image in your peripheral vision. It is your sixth sense telling you something is behind a door. It is movement in the dark. It is hot breath on your neck. It is a sonorous moan creeping into your head. The ant-weight nothingness marching over your skin that makes you shiver till your teeth rattle. [...]


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